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#101 2015-02-13 14:58:52

ScutBoy
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Re: MJ's stuff

Your plan for an "alternet", one Gopher node at at time?

Time to brush up on Veronica, then smile

Wasn't there Jughead as well?

Archie was just for FTP, IIRC.

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#102 2015-02-13 16:07:08

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There was, but Jughead was generally intended for a single host comprehensive index, not multiple ones. I reimplemented a Veronica-like system for modern servers and databases and dubbed it Veronica-2, but it doesn't have anything in common with the older system other than the purpose and the name. It works, though, and is reasonably complete.

Archie was indeed FTP only. I think there's a legacy server around with an old database but it is woefully out of date, much like HyTelnet.


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#103 2015-02-16 14:03:46

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techknight wrote:

Well i think its all moving that direction, rapid update cycles. Google is good for that too.

The latest android OS they totally redid the entire interface. instead of introducing gradual change, they just boom 180 the whole thing.

Hey techknight,

Awhile ago I posted on the other site about a 3400 with flickering backlight. I replaced the inverter and nothing changed. you told me it's either the ccfl or the logic board maybe.

I got around to changing the CCFL this past weekend... took the display apart and made it all look nice, but no change, so it's probably the logic board. I am about ready to give up on this thing and part it out. It's plastics are in real good shape. If you want them, pm me and I can get them out to you.

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#104 2015-02-16 18:04:32

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I have acquired 3 3400's and I will tell you due to battery placement, and non removal we have a new destructive force!  The batteries under the speaker area leak directly onto the graphics portion of the motherboard and drool on the cable connector of the keyboard.  So far cleaning and baking have not helped.  Recapping the battery/power board did get rid of some issues, like squealing and flaky power ups.  I have given up myself which sucks because they all kind of work, but then crap out on boot and memory checks.

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#105 2015-02-16 18:30:39

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macdrone wrote:

I have acquired 3 3400's and I will tell you due to battery placement, and non removal we have a new destructive force!  The batteries under the speaker area leak directly onto the graphics portion of the motherboard and drool on the cable connector of the keyboard.  So far cleaning and baking have not helped.  Recapping the battery/power board did get rid of some issues, like squealing and flaky power ups.  I have given up myself which sucks because they all kind of work, but then crap out on boot and memory checks.

big_smile

Techknight told me the 3400s have real issues. What you provided is more info then I had to go on before, but it makes me hate this thing even more. I haven't removed the logic board yet, only the display assembly, but I think that's the next step in whatever I do. I am curious as to how bad it shapes up. I'll try and take a picture of any leaking/damage.

If you want any parts from this one let me know.

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#106 2015-02-17 16:29:18

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My 3400 was the most reliable Mac I've ever owned until my Mac Pro. I used it regularly until the power manager died in 2013.


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#107 2015-02-17 16:52:17

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Hotdog Zanzibar wrote:

My 3400 was the most reliable Mac I've ever owned until my Mac Pro. I used it regularly until the power manager died in 2013.

Just curious, but what were the symptoms of the PMU dying? Just no power up? Or anything intermittent?

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#108 2015-02-17 20:59:59

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The PRAM battery leaking it's guts out on the logic board?


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#109 2015-02-18 01:58:14

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Well I started taking the thing apart tonight.

From back here, meh, yeah it looks OK.



Taking a closer look... Houston, we got a problem.




No expert, but I don't think she comin back, boys.

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#110 2015-02-18 02:03:09

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What a shame, the 3400's were a nice machine too.

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#111 2015-02-18 19:32:20

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Yep. Those batteries are murder.


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#112 2015-02-18 20:03:01

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Damn sad  Thats may be repairable tough.

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#113 2015-02-18 21:30:36

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Im going to guess those vias are shot and the pads on that IC will come right off.


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#114 2015-02-18 21:33:41

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Until its cleaned, its hard to say. Time to bust out some vinegar!

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#115 2015-02-18 21:46:27

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unity wrote:

Until its cleaned, its hard to say. Time to bust out some vinegar!

OK I scrubbed it up a bit! It's sitting right here, open, so I just went and got at it.

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#116 2015-02-18 21:56:57

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When I use vinegar, I soak for 15 min minimum and scrub gently with a tooth brush. Not sure how long you did, but maybe a second pass will get a little more off. Usually when I do it there is no green stuff left. But it certainly looks better. At least you can see how bad the damage is now.

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#117 2015-02-18 22:01:04

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unity wrote:

When I use vinegar, I soak for 15 min minimum and scrub gently with a tooth brush.

yeeeeahhhh, not 15 minutes lol! I used a q-tip. but toothbrush makes more sense. I'll try again.

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#118 2015-02-18 23:02:25

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OK, here's the second shot at cleaning.




And for some perspective. Tiny little things.

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#119 2015-02-19 22:33:07

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Good luck, I got 2 of mine looking great and still no change.

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#120 2015-02-19 23:24:30

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macdrone wrote:

Good luck, I got 2 of mine looking great and still no change.

I certainly don't have the skills necessary to fix this.  Screen is still shot after cleaning the board, so some traces and vias, not to mention IC, are almost definitely screwed.  Someone out there could probably check continuity on traces etc., and might get it working, but I've done all I can do.

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#121 2015-03-01 20:53:57

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I picked up another 475... this one being of the LC variety. It's not as pristine as the Performa, but it's still in great shape. It needed a new battery to boot, which is probably why it was cheap.

Anyway, three interesting things.

1. It has a ROM slot, like my other board, which is kind of cool, in a mostly useless sort of way smile
2. It was loaded with early 90's porno. LOL.  Funny aside- It only had 8MB of RAM in it... takes forever to uncompress a single picture LOFL @ poor bastard who owned this.
3. It had one of those little fucker Maxell bombs in it. Dodged a bullet there.

Crappy picture, under my 14MultiScan... but if you've seen one, you've seen em all.


Logic Board shot with newish battery. This came with an Ethernet card too.


ROM slot


The little fucker


Oh yes... I see what you are thinking.

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#122 2015-03-02 01:58:13

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Re: MJ's stuff

Damn that was lucky...looks like it was all ready to blow its guts over the logic board.

By the way, the ROM slot is no longer entirely useless - I believe the dougg3 ROM will work on a ROM slotted 475 smile

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#123 2015-03-02 02:03:46

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LCGuy wrote:

Damn that was lucky...looks like it was all ready to blow its guts over the logic board.

By the way, the ROM slot is no longer entirely useless - I believe the dougg3 ROM will work on a ROM slotted 475 smile

I had JUST been checking out this guy's blog... and look at that poor 475 omg!! The pic is about 2/3 of the way down. yikes!

http://macaddictisnotdead.blogspot.com.au/

I do need to get one of the dougg3 ROMs and programmers. I also need to get 128MB for one of these 475's to try out the RAM check bypass. And play around with in the SE/30 to... smile

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#124 2015-03-02 05:29:29

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LCGuy wrote:

Damn that was lucky...looks like it was all ready to blow its guts over the logic board.

By the way, the ROM slot is no longer entirely useless - I believe the dougg3 ROM will work on a ROM slotted 475 smile

It should; my dougg3 programmer read my ITVB ROM fine, which is just a wacky LC475.


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#125 2015-03-02 19:22:31

unity
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I had no clue the Maxells, or any lithium at end of life, can explode. Evidence sure looks like it but I assumed it was long term leakage. I wonder if the Maxells are more prone to failure due to the vent at the end. I dont see vents like that on my other brands I have on hand.

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