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#176 2015-05-22 21:55:56

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Re: MJ's stuff

TheWhiteFalcon wrote:

The Quadra's integrated video is a lot better than most.

I've got the 4MB card on my 8100 anyway, in the PDS slot.

Quadra Video was spotty, with reasonable support for 16" resolutions in some cases, sometimes 24bit (840AV?) but nothing 24bit for TPDs ever, IIRC.

PDS was part of the Mac architecture*** long before the PC crowd hit the wall and Local Bus (PDS) Video standards broke out like acne. VESA local bus cards blew everything Mac out of the water until the switch from NuBus to PCI architectures was accomplished. The 'tards within the infinite loopiness couldn't pull off a single  standardized PDS (vs. multiple VESA Local Bus Slots) within one product line developed under a single corporate roof. The gang of five pulled it off without breaking a sweat. Go figure! roll

I've got the 4MB HPV semi-installed in the Radius 81/110  .  .  .  so far sans SIMMs. hmm




***From day one if you count the KillyKlip option, much to control freak Steve's slot slaying chagrin. big_smile

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#177 2015-05-23 02:28:32

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I wasn't a creative professional back in the day (I was a primary school student smile), so my opinion is probably going to mean little, but with the VRAM maxed to 2MB I find the Quadra 700's built in video to be decent, and happilly drives my AppleVision 1710AV at 1152x870 in 16 bit colour.

Still, NuBus cards that allow for more colours at higher resolutions are always a good thing.

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#178 2015-05-25 18:43:59

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In for a penny, in for a pound. This little stray has got me by the nards.  I retrobrited the Quadra yesterday, and decided to toss the IIcx in after, and well, it just turned out so damn pretty.

So I removed the old caps and ordered up new ones. We'll see if this thing will actually run, at some point*

*Oh, did I mention I've never re-capped anything in my life? Good time to run that race, I s'pose.  big_smile

** EDIT: I realize I never posted anything about the Quadra. It came from Ted's BigPileofOffal. It works fine.

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#179 2015-05-27 18:29:36

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Wow those look clean as hell!


http://markyb86.weebly.com for some packs of old macintosh wallpapers, desktop patterns, windows wallpapers, sound files, etc.

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#180 2015-05-27 20:26:53

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Astonishingly high Return-on-Investment with this soak-n-sun process... (if you like to make old computers look 'more newer') smile

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#181 2015-05-28 06:39:12

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I *might* have a programmer's switch assembly for a IIcx or IIci, if you want one.  I'll have to look.  They do look nice.  Might have to do the same on the IIgs in a couple weeks, when we have more reliable sunny weather.

-J


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#182 2015-05-29 00:00:40

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volvo242gt wrote:

I *might* have a programmer's switch assembly for a IIcx or IIci, if you want one.  I'll have to look.  They do look nice.  Might have to do the same on the IIgs in a couple weeks, when we have more reliable sunny weather.

-J

Thanks for the offer! I might take you up on that if I can get this thing running. That's a big if I guess. If Charles' re-cap success is 50-50 with a totally dead board, my chances are, how shall I put it... slim at best big_smile  But I'll take it slow and give it, if not a sporting chance, at least some kind of chance at life.

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#183 2015-05-29 17:33:12

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If all else fails, I might have an extra Quadra 700 MoBo. smile

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#184 2015-05-29 18:02:50

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jt wrote:

If all else fails, I might have an extra Quadra 700 MoBo. smile

Well that might ensure this doesn't make it off the operating table big_smile  Joking aside, thanks for note, jt. I will let you know how the surgery goes, if I make it through as well.

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#185 2015-05-30 14:08:14

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Yeah, I got my third ShelfSupport700 ten or eleven years ago for the 9.99 still scrawled across its face at a thrift. Only one of the trio survived my hacking phase un-maimed. The other two are NuBus and PCI PPC upgraded. So if you've got the proc, I can probably dig out a board. I don't remember any of them not working.

These things seem to have become everyone's darling for some reason or other lately. Sure, they're cute and all, but after the 650 release  .  .  .  well  .  .  .  roll

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#186 2015-05-30 14:48:00

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Was the Quadra 650 in Jurassic Park? No? Then it's not as cool as the 700. big_smile

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#187 2015-05-30 15:47:11

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volvo if you find that switch and he doesn't want it I need one for mine, funny how they up and vanish.

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#188 2015-06-03 12:54:29

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Welp, I recapped the IIcx.  Pretty amateurish job... we'll leave it at that roll

But the board still doesn't boot... or do anything at all for that matter.... just kind of sits there like a rock, same as it did before. sad  I wasn't holding out much hope of it working BAM like that, but if it did anything... I would've felt some glimmer of success.  I guess the rot got it good somewhere... Nothing ventured, nothing gained I s'pose.

I'll pick up some boards the next time I'm at the recycler and start working on my technique.

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#189 2015-06-03 15:22:20

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Good on ya! I've yet to try recapping anything but a dead DuoDock PSU back in the day. A well documented one cap fix for a failure prone component doesn't really count  .  .  .  or was it a resistor? Drilling out the rivets and replacing them for reassembly was more of an adventure, metal shavings in PSUs = bad things.

The TelCo Rack is chock full of DOA RCA 5.1 and Stereo Components from the dead-cap-walking Sino-Japanese stolen formula era. neutral  I missed my 5.1 and snagged a full System replacement on eBay  .  .  .  that failed as well.

TheWhiteFalcon wrote:

Was the Quadra 650 in Jurassic Park? No? Then it's not as cool as the 700. big_smile

If it had been released, that would have been a plot buster, the Quadra 650 would have compiled Nedry's code too quickly to make a plausible excuse. tongue

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#190 2015-06-03 19:00:08

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Then again, if it were, perhaps they would've reworked the plot to compensate?

c


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#191 2015-06-04 03:19:50

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Substitute a PC and Windows? lol

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#192 2015-06-04 04:31:11

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There looks to be a lot of Samsung product placement in Jurassic World, so...

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#193 2015-06-06 00:23:26

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I practiced a bit more with the IIcx last night then got the nerve up to recap a IIsi I had hanging out here, earlier today.  It worked!

I'm pretty happy.

Bits and pieces of detritus:
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A couple of new caps. Didn't go too crazy with anything special. These are Panasonics.

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By Gawd it works! Oh happy days. smile

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#194 2015-06-06 01:30:14

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Congrats!  Having it wake up from surgery is always a plus.  smile

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#195 2015-06-06 03:22:15

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[obiwan]You've taken your first step into a larger world.[/obiwan]

In all seriousness, this can lead you to an entirely new level of repair abilities. Congrats.


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#196 2015-06-06 04:49:54

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I've been thinking about getting a Two-Sigh for a while; you like yours?

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#197 2015-06-06 08:44:29

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^They aren't bad little machines.  A bit crippled compared to the Two-CeeEye, but, still decent.  The only issues I've come across with them, other than the usual leaky caps and battery explosions, are with the speaker and cooling fan connections.  Metal fingers touching contacts on the board.  Corrosion builds up as the machine ages, sound starts cutting out intermittently, and, eventually, the cooling fan stops working at times.  RESIST the urge to tap the top of the fan if it stops working while you have the case open.  The fingers will short out against the SCSI connector, frying the bus.  I learned the hard way 19 years ago.

-J


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#198 2015-06-06 11:31:09

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Thanks guys! Admittedly, the IIsi is an easier one to do, considering it only has two sizes - the run o' the mill 47's and then the 220's. And they are all nicely spaced apart and maneuvering the iron wasn't too tough, especially when trying to solder the new caps in. But for a first timer success, I am a happy camper.

I have another plain jane LC showing up sometime, so that will be a bit more challenging, seeing as how most of those caps are all in close proximity.

WhiteFalcon, I do like the IIsi from a usability perspective. It has 7.1 on it and basic home user software and games. The box is easy to manage. It came with a riser card, but I don't have any cards to try in it and really have no interest in networking it. That being said, I haven't run into any power issues because nothing's in there to tax it too terribly.  And there is a chunk of space in there that is unused... I think jt's had some things in the works for hackin' it up. I did find out that it does not play nice with my MultiScan monitor-- I'm guessing sync issues.

I cleaned up the the finger connectors so hopefully I don't run into fan/speaker issues.

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#199 2015-06-06 23:12:24

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I've found that System 6 runs best on the IIsi, but 7.1 is okay too for the most part (I set AfterDark to bounce an Apple logo around the screen, and while movement was slow and choppy with 7.1, it was quick and smooth under 6).

c


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#200 2015-06-07 02:12:31

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Isi with a video card works way better , and with FPU all the choppy goes away with 7.5 I can attest to that.  From the hack idea for the SE30 the IIsi fpu socket was nice.

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