Announcement

After 5 years serving the vintage Apple enthusiast community, ThinkClassic has been marked for closure and is now in caretaker mode. Please see this thread for further information. Please direct any questions, comments and enquiries about the website, management and ownership to this thread.

You are not logged in.

#101 2015-07-17 18:02:40

MJ313
Member
Registered: 2014-09-23
Posts: 498

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Does the pcb have lime-green color in certain areas? Or is that a reflection? I like it.

Offline

#102 2015-07-18 01:02:24

volvo242gt
Member
From: Duvall, WA
Registered: 2014-05-22
Posts: 410
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Yup, this would be ScullyPlastic™...

-J


modern: Mac Pro 2.8GHz 8-core 6GB/500G/DVD-RW, Mid-2010 A1286 MBP
PPC: G3/400
Pre-Mac: //e
other: iPhone 6s 128GB Space Gray

Offline

#103 2015-07-18 05:45:00

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Lol indeed it clearly isnt SpindlerPlastic© as the tabs havent broken off the back yet... just a little spindleresque. big_smile I still think the ci is nonetheless among the great Mac desktop cases. I actually love working on this machine. smile

The bright green areas of the PCB are just large open areas reflecting the light but I agree it does look fantastic! big_smile


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#104 2015-09-24 19:03:04

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Welp, it has been a while since I updated this thread... largely by virtue of the fact I have had too much going on to really play Macs lately. However today I managed to score myself some interesting bits of gear in as yet unknown condition after a tipoff from a member of the community I speak with fairly regularly. As the items were free and I had a friend able to pick them up, I figured i had nothing to lose and everything to gain, so as such I now own an AppleVision 750AV and a a '93 vintage Apple 21" Color Display which weighs as much as a thousand suns.

They were both being advertised for free on Gumtree by a seller 45 minutes to an hour away, and a workmate lives about 10 minutes away so he happily collected them for me and brought them to work tonight.

I will probably test the 21 tomorrow and I will take apart the AV before switching it on and suss out its internal condition as it has evidence of being outside for while. I dont have huge hopes for the AV but i figured as it was free there was no harm in taking it and just using the suck it and see approach. I had a pair of them in the early 2000's and neither of them worked... I beleive one was a simple fix, however the trailer it was in (which was my hobbying workspace as a young teenager) on our property was demolished in a bushfire on Christmas Day in 2001 so I never found out whether it could be made to work again.

It's be great to have one or the other of these displays standing alongside my 9600 to complete the picture. I'd prefer to use the 750AV as it is more period-correct and very much the monitor of choice if you had bought a 9600MP new in 1997 with that mad trinitron single-curve CRT and inbuilt speakers and ADB hub... however in saying this, the much earlier 21" would still look phenomenally impressive assuming my glass desktop will hold it's gargantuan 36kg mass.


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#105 2015-09-27 16:50:10

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Some time back, I also obtained a pair of free displays, a 750AV and a 21" single-res. It saddens me to report the 750 is entirely DOA however I find this entirely unsurprising, and the 21" whilst it does power on, does not appear to function in as much as show a display. Whilst it must be taken into consideration that it is a fixed-resolution display, it also should be noted that both the standard TT128 video card and the display output controller of the Targa2000 installed concurrently in my 9600 are both capable of displaying the 1152x870@75Hz configuration required by the 21" display, so by rights this alone should not prevent it from displaying video. Whilst the only definitive way to see if it works is plug it into a Q700 or Q900 which it was designed for, I do suspect it does have a more serious problem rather than a simple case of incompatibility. In any case I will keep both at this stage, as the 21" should be a relatively uncomplex item electronically (comparatively speaking) and possibly able to be saved. The 750AV on the other hand, and other such large Apple displays of later years were realistically lemons right out of the box, and it is likely that diagnoses and repair would be rather an impractical endeavor, and pointless on an item with such bad failure rate. However for the sake of having a visually period-correct Apple monitor for the 9600, I am going to explore the possibility of gutting the case of all it's CRT-related circuitry and the tube itself and install a more modern, cheaply available TFT display in it's place, and work some magic if need be to have the speakers and maybe the ADB hub still functional. big_smile

Also this happened...

9251CA98-DC49-43DA-B2B2-7FB4A6F85861-113-00000000EB12076B.jpg

Now I have a Mac for all occasions...

FEBD781D-CE89-4001-9A96-C96872AB050F-113-000000013132155B.jpg

Also, this corner is a thing... a few  keyboards, spares, and machines that are still semi-regularly used or are currently being worked on live here. Just figured it was worth a snap. smile

337F389C-0835-4FE8-8F79-CD11572A6F7F-113-00000000AFF615D0.jpg

Last edited by Schmoburger (2015-10-19 03:32:18)


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#106 2015-09-27 17:01:23

ClassicHasClass
Member
From: Electron Alley
Registered: 2014-05-26
Posts: 1,118
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Finally, a IIvx doing something useful! wink


Machine room (updated for 2019!): http://www.floodgap.com/etc/machines.html

Offline

#107 2015-09-27 19:53:02

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

ClassicHasClass wrote:

Finally, a IIvx doing something useful! wink

Not gonna lie, I do love the speaker in it! hahah... Icehouse and Fleetwood Mac sound great through it. Whether or not I have a pair of surround sound setups accessible by the G5 that would blow the vx right off the table should be considered irrelevant for this purpose! hahahahaha

It is also handy for uh.... well... there is that thing. That thing it does that is very... uh... good. And stuff...  andit has wings on the gophernet! big_smile lol

Super Maze  Wars and Spectre VR are also rather sprightly on it too... As they also are on the 9600 and the DV SE, but we won't talk about that.

OK I'm clutching at straws now... lol. I actually have no idea what it is that appeals to me about the IIvx so much!


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#108 2015-09-27 21:17:46

jt
Member
From: Bermuda Triangle, NC USA
Registered: 2014-05-21
Posts: 1,470

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Everyone loves polishing a turd or two in their collections. tongue

Offline

#109 2015-10-05 16:25:11

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Well, today I spent a productive day sorting and de-PRAMMING a couple of formerly inaccessible parts of the MacStack™, and dragged out a quartet of "outrigger" Mac's ( my WGS7350, 7300/200, Franken7600/200 and G3/266DT), my IIe, both PowerComputing desktop clones and their keyboards, a IIsi that used to work and hopefully still does, my 6100/66 DOS, and my Compaq Prolinea 486/33s tangientally, as well as a stack of floppies of documents last seen in 2000, when I was 14, the Idiots Guide to the Mac, a boxed MacSense Ethernet LC PDS card, a few Mac user manuals, The MS-DOS Users Guide by Microsoft, and my boxed copies of MacPaint and MacWrite, a box of Lombard parts, and also unearthed my original IIvx. smile

Just about to fire up the WGS (Which unusually for Australia, is a US-built machine) and see whether it plays the game for me smile

Last edited by Schmoburger (2015-10-05 16:26:27)


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#110 2015-10-05 17:34:04

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Well... this is turning out rather anticlimatic to say the least. The WGS will not power on, and the about a second or two after plugging in the power cord on the 7600/200 (which was my old old old amatuer video workhorse from 15 years ago in the days of Hi8 and RCA still being acceptable standard lol) , the PSU blew up very impressively indeed... Holy shit! Well, I guess that gives me the incentive I need to harvest the RAM from the 7600 (These machines really are on my *MEH* list these days anyway) and fill the remaining slots on the 9600 with the biggest DIMMs, and perhaps use the two hefty 4Gb drives on something that wont explode with an almighty bang.

I think it's time to call it a night after these thus far woeful results. Not gonna lie, I was kinda keen to fire up the Frnken7600 and go for an explore around. hmm


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#111 2015-10-06 00:54:42

MJ313
Member
Registered: 2014-09-23
Posts: 498

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Now you let your 7600 go explore a big hole in the ground. big_smile

Offline

#112 2015-10-07 04:05:37

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

It just got worse and worse hmm So, after the WGS failed to power on and the 7600 blew the fuck up, I decided to canabalise the PSU out of the WGS and toss it into the 7600... it powered up instead of exploding this time, but it seems BOTH hard drives have gone south, either that or the SCSI controller is toast. The main drive was spinning up and the machine was recognising a system folder from it but wouldnt go past the happy mac. The secondary (identical) drive just cycles constantly between spinning up, spinning down, then on it goes... doesnt ever spin up to full speed and stay there. Also, the WGS's drive appears to be cactuar too going by all the nasty clicking. hmm

My only real interest in the 7600 these days was the files I had on it, but that seems no longer to be an ongoing concern so I may start scavenging the biggest RAM out of it and fill the remaining slots in the 9600. I was going to use the WGS as an actual file server and things, but well... it doesnt work anymore. Not sure I can justify putting effort into fixing a 7xxx either.


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#113 2015-10-07 05:54:43

volvo242gt
Member
From: Duvall, WA
Registered: 2014-05-22
Posts: 410
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Schmoburger wrote:

It just got worse and worse hmm So, after the WGS failed to power on and the 7600 blew the fuck up, I decided to canabalise the PSU out of the WGS and toss it into the 7600... it powered up instead of exploding this time, but it seems BOTH hard drives have gone south, either that or the SCSI controller is toast. The main drive was spinning up and the machine was recognising a system folder from it but wouldnt go past the happy mac. The secondary (identical) drive just cycles constantly between spinning up, spinning down, then on it goes... doesnt ever spin up to full speed and stay there. Also, the WGS's drive appears to be cactuar too going by all the nasty clicking. hmm

My only real interest in the 7600 these days was the files I had on it, but that seems no longer to be an ongoing concern so I may start scavenging the biggest RAM out of it and fill the remaining slots in the 9600. I was going to use the WGS as an actual file server and things, but well... it doesnt work anymore. Not sure I can justify putting effort into fixing a 7xxx either.

Hmmm, pop the drive into an external case, then connect it to the 9600.  After the machine boots, turn the case on, and let the drive spin up.  See if SCSIProbe will mount it.  If it does, then you can see what's on there.  If not, you could try something like DiskWarrior or a similar utility to repair the directory and get your files accessible again.  Once did that on a 7100/66 that a family friend owned, when his hard drive was taking a dump.  Used DiskWarrior to create an undamaged image and was able to get his files off the drive that was dying.  The other drive might just not be receiving enough power to get it to stay running...  The 7350 drive, if there is anything on it, you might be able to get that off before giving it the drill treatment...

Owned a 7500/100 back in 2003-04...  Wasn't a bad machine, at least in my experience back then.  It had been updated to 7300/200 specs when I got it, then I picked up a Newer Technology G3/300 processor card.  Dropped that in.  Became quite useful.  That card eventually made its way into a 9600, which I used as my daily driver machine until 2006 sometime when I finally picked up a revision 2 B&W G3.  Used the G3 until sometime in 2009.  That's when the G4 DA arrived.

-J


modern: Mac Pro 2.8GHz 8-core 6GB/500G/DVD-RW, Mid-2010 A1286 MBP
PPC: G3/400
Pre-Mac: //e
other: iPhone 6s 128GB Space Gray

Offline

#114 2015-10-07 13:22:11

macdrone
Member
From: Rainier, Or
Registered: 2014-05-25
Posts: 246

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Found the 7xxx like the G3's get finicky on old scsi drives and mounting with bad batteries.  Starting up from cd allowed me to access them, and or reboot since staying plugged in saved the pram data until fully off.

Offline

#115 2015-10-13 02:02:16

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I seem to have misplaced my OS8 series discs and my 9.1 retail disc is damaged so I'm going to have to hunt for some ISO's of them on the web... I have the batteries pulled from the machines so this is a possible cause for the drives not wanting to play ball. I'm about to have another play around now before I set about *hopefully* firing up my PowerCenter 132 and my working (well, it used to) IIsi and see what they do in 2015. smile Pics to follow.

I guess for what it's worth I probably wont miss too much of the data that was on the 7600 as I beleive a lot of it got shifted over to the G3 anyway... It was mostly programmes etc that I likely have no longer got the original discs for due to degradation, damage, or loss after a few moves. There were a couple of short video projects on the seconary hard sisc (the one that wont spin up properly now) that I beleive only existed on their now, being that I havent seen the VCD copies I burned of them in years, but I can live without them.


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#116 2015-10-13 05:05:34

Washerman
Member
Registered: 2014-08-24
Posts: 51

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Schmoburger wrote:

I seem to have misplaced my OS8 series discs and my 9.1 retail disc is damaged so I'm going to have to hunt for some ISO's of them on the web... I have the batteries pulled from the machines so this is a possible cause for the drives not wanting to play ball. I'm about to have another play around now before I set about *hopefully* firing up my PowerCenter 132 and my working (well, it used to) IIsi and see what they do in 2015. smile Pics to follow.

Very interested in the results of these tests Schmo smile I've just got the PowerCenter (with PowerCurve 120 motherboard and 604/225 CPU) up and running. Had to reseat everything, and removing the cache stick brought it back to life! Another good thing is being able to use an old ATX standard PSU (with -5V) in place of the original if it goes pop (as mine did).

Offline

#117 2015-10-15 01:49:53

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I had actually forgotten that some of these used a generic ATX power supply... At this point, PSU's blowing up are one of my biggest concerns, as they are all reaching the autumn years of their reliable service life and some are very difficult to repair.

I actually have two 132 Powercenter clones, a slim form factor one and a taller one, however I only brough one homethe slim one as the other has gotten some wierd corrosion from somewhere on the back of the board and needs work. It's not the usual cap goo rot, its almost as if it has had actual moisture on it when in storage... just around abouts the case fan area. Anyway, once I put these wretched 7xxx series machines back together I will drag out the clone and see what happens. I'm also keen, but at the same time nervous, about firing up the DOS Compatible 6100... I'd love to have a proper play around with that 486-based emulation card. big_smile


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#118 2015-10-15 05:27:18

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Well, I'm glad to say I've finally acheived a 100% successful run of one of the machines I recently got out of the Stack... After having to remove and reseat everything twice and brush 20 years worth of dust off the board (to reveal a very clean, goo-free surface and no swollen caps, The low-pro PowerCenter 132 now boots into 7.6.1 and runs like clockwork, cache and all... quite sprightly too in System 7, in fact I'd go as far as to say it is comparable in speed to my 9600 on 9.2 in unintensive operations. smile Now to clean it up, back up the hard drive and perhaps set it up to play around with for a bit.

Will grab some of those pics ive been promising soon. lol


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#119 2015-10-19 07:51:23

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

And here we have it, one PowerCenter 132... I just  had to replace the CD-ROM drive with one I scabbed out of the dead WGS, as the original one would not respond or spin up discs. Unfortunately that means I lose the front controls etc but as if anybody uses those anyway. smile These are an absolutely fantastic design... right down to the little push in clips to secure the top of the daughtercard and the sliding floppy drive. Everything is easily accessible and laid out logically.

2F3AF5BB-1392-4DB6-8411-6F4F68C82261-150-00000014CF79ADA2.jpg

Unfortunately no interior shots as yet, but I beleive washerman has put some up on one of his threads of a similar machine. I'll grab some next time ive got it apart if I remember.

This formerly belonged to the local paper, the South Coast Register (hence the sticker) at one point in its life, and has a folder full of news stories going back 20 years. Kinda interesting to have such a little snapshot of the past. smile Funnily enough it also has Chuck Yeager's Air Combat sim on it as well... good to see them staying productive there at the local rag!

I'm currently backing up some of the handy apps and the system folder on the clone as we speak, meaning I have it and the 9600 going as well as the G5... it sounds like I am bloody airside at LAX in the cave right now with 6 hard drives and 12 fans running at once. It's also becoming quite toasty in here...


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#120 2015-10-19 08:00:15

LCGuy
Administrator
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: 2014-05-13
Posts: 855

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

In my research lab I have...*counts* 10 hard drives and 10 fans (counting the server, desktop PC and Cisco switches) running 24/7 and its as quiet as a cat's purr. That said...my ears aren't exactly that great smile

Offline

#121 2015-10-19 14:20:30

ClassicHasClass
Member
From: Electron Alley
Registered: 2014-05-26
Posts: 1,118
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Is it really that yellowed, or is that just the camera?

Still, nicely preserved otherwise. I always liked Power Computing.


Machine room (updated for 2019!): http://www.floodgap.com/etc/machines.html

Offline

#122 2015-10-19 16:26:44

bbraun
Member
Registered: 2014-05-29
Posts: 1,064
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Nice!  Nobody does desktops like that anymore!  Also, I've had more than a few CD drives from that era fail with...  bad caps!  Shocking, I know.  But they did come back to life after recapping, so might be worth a try.

Offline

#123 2015-10-19 16:31:57

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

ClassicHasClass wrote:

Is it really that yellowed, or is that just the camera?

Still, nicely preserved otherwise. I always liked Power Computing.

Nah it isn't hugely yellowed, A little, but pretty much the normal amount one would expect from 20 year old plastics... In fact for something that came out of a newspaper office. But the light in this room  does funny things and my iPhone 4 camera is a potato lol... That and the unexposed platinum outer bezel of the 7600 CD-ROM drive makes it look a whole lot worse again due to it being totally unyellowed. I was horrified by how bad the picture made it look, but it is actually in quite good condition in the flesh. smile

But yes, they are very nice clones indeed... theyre well-built, well-designed and seem to be very reliable from what ive seen. After the layer of dust was removed this board still looks in great shape. no bulging or leaked caps that I could see yet, or any corrosion. The only thing really letting it down, and it's a piffling complaint really, is the quality of the speaker It is very tinny and rather lacking in volume... It sounds like a poxy built in case speaker in a desktop PC, not the nice, meaty, high quality sound that somehow comes out of real Mac's such as the IIvx. But I guess these were realistically built for a different market.

Last edited by Schmoburger (2015-10-19 16:41:06)


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#124 2015-10-19 16:58:51

Schmoburger
Member
From: Australia
Registered: 2015-04-21
Posts: 281
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

bbraun wrote:

Nice!  Nobody does desktops like that anymore!  Also, I've had more than a few CD drives from that era fail with...  bad caps!  Shocking, I know.  But they did come back to life after recapping, so might be worth a try.

These are a great compromise between having room to expand a little whilst not having a massive bulk of a desktop case, or having a huge footprint as is the case with towers. It's big enough to have a few PCI slots, yet not exceedingly tall meaning it is far more ergonomically sound as far as goes not having to look up at a screen or be miles up on your gaslift chair. I rather like these slim form factor desktop PC's of old.

And yeh I did read something somewhere recently about ApppleCD 200's succumbing to cap failure and biting the dust directly as a result... might be worth me breaking this one open at some stage. The one used in the clone is a Philips unit. I'm not overly worried at this point as I have plenty of working drives and machines in poor aesthetic condition or unservicable with major failures that I can scavenge from, but recapping drives is looking to be a thing that might become more commonplace in the near future, at least in our particular hobby.


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

Offline

#125 2015-10-19 17:01:16

mcdermd
Member
From: Corvallis, OR
Registered: 2014-05-12
Posts: 1,022
Website

Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Nice. I have a PC120. It should be about the same internal layout as yours. Like the minitowers, those were a pretty good representation of generic PC clone cases of the time.


Daily Drivers: 27" iMac 2.8 GHz Quad-Core i7 (Late 2009), 21.5" iMac 2.7GHz Quad-Core i5 (Late 2013), 11" Macbook Air 1.6 GHz i5 (Mid-2011)
See the restored heroes here.

Offline

Board footer

About ThinkClassic

ThinkClassic specialises in the use, maintenance, repair, restoration and modification of vintage computers and peripherals.