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#76 2014-12-03 16:20:25

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Re: mcdermd the Applefool

I also have to use a PowerBook 1xx series AC adapter for mine, and it works OK.

Interested that so many PowerCDs are missing the AC adapter...

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#77 2014-12-03 17:23:26

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Re: mcdermd the Applefool

Lets see, If I could find mine, I'd have listed the output. I know it's here in the piles I'm re-organizing, but others might lose the remote, cables and lump-onna-rope easily over the years, especially the AV cable.

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#78 2014-12-03 20:37:44

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Here are the two mystery Radius cards:

2h8a80g.jpg

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#79 2014-12-04 06:52:38

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The top one I've got, dunno if I ever fired it up. IIRC  I got it because its heat sinks are just like the one on my Rocket and, of course,  radius is what I think I really collect  .  .  .   hmm

ISTR being curious about the "3dfx angle" and that DRAM hanging off its ass, not to mention an unimplemented thru-hole setup for hanging a bustle full of it on there. Looks like the short version is using higher density VRAM and DRAM with no expansion capability. Could be revised size, lower spec, same or higher  .  .  .  not a clue.

My other interesting card is a (c)1995 and has an S3(R)Vision968 Chipset and a drop dead gorgeous IBM Pallette DAC, but it only has 8 256Kx16 VRAM ICs on board which seems anemic at 2MB. Was ther a limit to the S3 chipsets?

The "1600" cards you mentioned are likely the same as my trio spanning 1995 and 1996. I don't remember the two from 1996, something wasn't right, so the seller sent two, don't remember why. Typical 3MB TPD performance. The earlier card has the four DSP daughtercard, the post-it note says 1152x870x75Hz@24bit, that it RUNS HOT, RDUS, Golden Gate and RDUSTHUNDERColor  .  .  .  and: SCREWS UP VIDEO?

The card in your top pic is worth a good look. Mine has 4MB of VRAM (8 256Kx16 on front & same on back) and that DRAM on board for whatever reason.

Does the short version have half that like my S3/IBM Chipset Card or are there 4 VRAM ICs on each side? that would make sense if they were 512Kx16 for a total of 4MB.

I remember some criticism of radius over repackaging their NuBus cards as PCI. With (c)1993 ASICS on board a (c)1995 or 1996 Video Card I can see that, but that was what I used and it worked fine for me. Now I gotta play with the big 4MB mutha! cool

edit: strange now that I've had some coffee I was thinking about that MuBus->PCI thing.They were building the Thunder IV GX 1600 with DSP in the 7" form factor and then they came out with a 12" PCI card with only 3MB and a 4 DSP daughtercard that's significantly longer than the NuBus version's daughtercard? I wonder if Apple never made anything but a consumer Mac that was short slotted? The TAM doesn't count and the 6360 was was a Performa.

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#80 2014-12-06 02:59:16

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BLECH! tongue

System Profiler gave some interesting results on the 4MB Card:

Additional Information:    Main screen
        SLOT-3
                PCI Slot
                    Card type:    Not available
                    Card name:    pci3d3d,3
                    Card model:    -1
                    Card ROM #:    Not available
                    Card revision:    1
                    Card vendor ID:    3D3D
                    Ethernet address:   
        SLOT-3
                Display card
                    Card type:    display
                    Card name:    RDUS,HighDive
                    Card model:    Radius Thunder 3D/PCI
                    Card ROM #:    Not available
                    Card revision:    1
                    Card vendor ID:    3D3D
                    Ethernet address:   


TattleTech 2.84 didn't get on well with it at all.

PCI Report:

¥ PCI Slot = SLOT-3
   × Name = pci3d3d,3
   × Type = [Unknown]
   × Model = [Unknown]
   × Revision = 1
   × Vendor ID = $3D3D
   × Device ID = $3
   × Class = 11  (Processor)
   × Sub-Class = $4000  (Co-processor)
   × Driver# = [Unknown]

OS9.2.2 on QS'02/Dual1GHz

Hang ANTYHING off the DA-15 on that thing and bad things happen.

Didn't expect nearly as much info as what I got though, this baby has OS8.x max. written all over its birth certificate.

Game over! hmm

edit: yikes mebbe not! First off, it's 8MB(?) and made specifically for accelerating QuickDraw 3D RAVE 1.1 API @ $2,999 per unit in 1977

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Workstati … a019335364

"Radius' Thunder 3D offers on-board QuickDraw and QuickDraw 3D acceleration, for lightning fast 2D and 3D graphics, unparalleled texture mapping capabilities, Super Resolution (1600 x 1200) and 30-bit full color graphics. These features combine to create the most comprehensive 3D graphics acceleration feature set available on the Mac OS for high end digital image visualization. "

http://www.mactech.com/content/md1-pr-qd3d-release-0
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3CARDS/XLR8_400/

That'd pump up the ticket price of your high end 9600/300 by another 56% and then there's the 3-D Imaging $uite or CAD $eat! big_smile

Found great info on the Thunder 3D PCI in their Tempest Q&A info. Methinks that DRAM is Texture Memory. I wonder if the little one is the Tempest?

edit: methinks a late 90s correct 3D workstation running OS8 is in the works all of a sudden  .  .  .  smile

http://homepage2.nifty.com/~yu-tak/videocard/card.html

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#81 2014-12-18 16:59:43

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I picked up a MicroNet thing called a "SANCube" for free the other day. Looks like ix 46 GB drives in a  firewire box. Supposedly for OS 9 only? Seems that it's supposed to be configured RAID 0 or 1 but I'm not sure which software I need for OS 9 to see it yet.

Anyone know anything about this box?

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#82 2014-12-18 17:30:54

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If it's FW, it should "just work." What happens when you plug it in?


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#83 2014-12-18 17:44:56

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It's only seen by system profiler. I think it needs to be configured. It also look like ATTO Accelware will make it available as a shared volume between OS 9 machines connected to it (there are four FW ports).


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#84 2014-12-18 18:04:34

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Oh, that's wicked! Sharing over FW!


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#85 2014-12-18 18:59:23

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I've got one of these guys kicking around as well. Haven't done much with it since it has small, loud drives in it. If I remember correctly, the drives show up as individual disks on the FW bus.

It also has a bug. A literal bug - a dead cricket looking thing between the plastic outer case and the inner metal shell smile

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#86 2014-12-18 19:36:21

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They should not show as individual disks if you set them up properly as a RAID volume. Wonder if it will do RAID 0+1?


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#87 2014-12-18 21:39:37

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cool as hell, mcd! But it kinda looks like a stillborn (or immediately culled) mutant Graphite Cube of a MolarMac dam and unregistered, remarkably peculiar heritage that somehow escaped gelding. yikes

I'll chalk that up to FUGLY workin' it for a change! Graphite breadmaker/laundry hamper goes HDD drive case hack? Schweet! big_smile

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#88 2014-12-24 08:17:40

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A few weeks ago I bought another arcade machine off of Craigslist, "Speed Buggy" ("Buggy Boy" to some overseas folk). It was advertised as working but having a broken monitor. I gave the guy $70 and hauled it off.

When I did open it up, it was pretty nasty. Mouse pills, what looked like bird guano, the usual grime. I'm suspecting it spent some time in a carport or something. The monitor issue was a vertical collapse issue due to mouse damage on the monitor board. After a LOT of cleaning, parts replacement and a ton of work on the monitor board, it's finally up and running.

speed_buggy_2.jpg

speed_buggy_3.jpg

There are a few more things I want to attend to before I move it home but it's nearly done.


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#89 2014-12-24 09:13:57

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Re: mcdermd the Applefool

Turbotastic! (sorry, had to throw in a Wreck-It Ralph reference smile)

Seriously though, it looks awesome, great job smile

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#90 2014-12-24 16:42:15

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It's all good. We have Fix it Felix Jr (and Bad Dudes vs Dragon Ninja) too!


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#91 2014-12-24 18:07:35

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Nice restoration. I'm working on an LED upgrade for my Star Trek TNG pinball myself (plus fixing the lock drop target).


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#92 2014-12-24 19:13:00

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If I had more money, I'd do pinball. It takes a chunk of change, not to mention a larger room.


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#93 2014-12-25 06:11:36

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I've got room for two reasonably. Unreasonably, I could take over the living room, but I'd like to make that a home theatre some day. So I just have the two.


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#94 2015-01-15 23:41:14

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Wait, is it really possible you don't have a 475 in your collection?? yikes
Do you hate them for some reason?

The arcades are pretty cool. We've got this place called the American Classic Arcade Museum like 45 minutes from where I live, in Weirs Beach, NH... I've never been though. I meant to go last summer but it fell through.

http://www.classicarcademuseum.org/ACAM … nament.htm

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#95 2015-01-16 00:26:01

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I don't hate them per se but I got no love for them either. I helped get a killer 475 together for uniserver a couple years ago.


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#96 2015-01-16 06:26:51

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Oh man, Buggy Boy is a *great* game! Good work restoring it!

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#97 2015-01-16 20:52:07

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The 475 that I had was pretty good.  But, what I did do, was to swap the lid and floppy with one from an LC.  Got rid of the late 1993 "fishlips" and flat front look that I don't really care for.  That was the only 32-bit clean Mac I've owned that actually would run Arkanoid.  Every other machine has either bombed, gone to Macsbug, or froze up with either 1.0 or 1.1.

-J


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#98 2015-01-22 01:01:41

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I picked up a few things this week.

I found a Quadra 660av and an LCII along with a 12" RGB Monitor (the ones that match the LC) for free. I recapped the 660v and it's running well. The LC II needs caps and is dead.

I also grabbed an Early 2008, 20" 2.66 GHz iMac (256 MB Radeon HS2600 Pro, 2 GB RAM, 500 GB HDD) at the university sale for $25. The inside was quite dusty and the processor paste had turned to crust so the GPU was flakey and prevented booting. I cleaned it all out and performed the old toaster-oven reflow on the Radeon car. Now all is well.


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#99 2015-02-06 02:27:32

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I got another $20 iMac from this week's sale.

This one is a challenge, though. It's a Late 2009 27" 2.8GHz quad-core i7 (iMac11,1). It looks like they destroyed it trying to get the hard drive out. It's missing the front glass and they ripped the LCD cable off the logic board. I think I was able to repair and replace the LCD connector on the logic board (only one pad was ripped off - a ground). I should be able to test it tomorrow. The rest of the parts needed are:

Front glass, LCD temp sensor, LCD sync ribbon cable, hard drive bracket.

I'm hoping to put it all together for $100 total.


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#100 2015-02-06 18:25:37

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And ... IT"S WORKING!

I was able to salvage the sync cable and make an LCD temp sensor so I guess I'll be ordering front glass, hard drive bracket and memory door.

In case anyone is wondering, thanks to a MacRumors post I found out that this is all the LCD temp sensor is:

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