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#1 2017-03-30 03:58:15

Jim1174
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Which model do you recommend

I want to get an old Macintosh. I want to set it up and play games and play with the other programs. Which model do you recommend for this purpose ?

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#2 2017-03-30 07:23:28

LazarusNine
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Re: Which model do you recommend

Welcome to the site! It really depends on what you're after in terms of software. Are you in it for games and programs released later in the 90s? Then it's probably some kind of PPC machine you'll want. If you're strictly interested in 68k-era Macs, then there are a few that make sense early on. Do you want screen output to be black and white or colour?

Personally, I wouldn't recommend an all-in-one Mac to a new collector if you're unsure about how far down this road you're going to go. They need increasing amounts of attention and the built-in screens mean the added need to recap analogue boards and deal with other issues. That's just my subjective opinion. I think good starter machines include something like one of the later LC models like the LCIII or 475. After recapping the logic board and possibly the power supply, you're generally good to go. You can use a modern multi-sync LCD monitor with an Apple-VGA adapter. Because they're so compact, shipping is generally less than it is for other items and you can still find these machines at pretty reasonable prices.

Again, though, it depends on what kind of specific interest you have and what aesthetic you're going for, etc. Getting started, though, I think this is a good first step. I mean, if it's just software you're interested in, you could think about emulation or purchasing a late G4 machine. They're really cheap these days.

**This thread might be better in the general discussion section, as this section is dedicated specifically to the compact Macs and Lisa. I'm not a moderator, though, so that's their decision!

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#3 2017-03-30 08:05:25

Jim1174
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Re: Which model do you recommend

I really wanted to get one to play with some of the 80's stuff that was for the black & white all in one model. Do the lc machines play the original macintosh stuff ? Also if i do decide to get an all in one  which model would be best ?

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#4 2017-03-30 14:38:15

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Re: Which model do you recommend

How old is old? For example, I loved Duane Blohm's old games back in the day (ZeroGravity, Stunt Copter, all that). The sound hardware is different on later Macs -- I played it on a Mac Plus originally circa 1988 -- which can render some of those titles mute, and they often run too fast, as well as differences in the supported OS (this was all 6.0.8).

Many games will work just fine on an LC, but some won't. If you want a Compact Mac for that classic feeling, I tend to prefer Mac Pluses because they're my nostalgia, they're more capable than the 128 and 512K systems (more memory, they have SCSI, they can run up to 7.5.5) and they tend not to have the capacitor problems of later systems. If you want a Compact Mac for other reasons, you can't go wrong with an SE/30, but be prepared to do some work if it hasn't been recapped and there tends to be competition for working units.

If you are fine with a non-Compact Mac, I personally like the IIci. It's capable, expandable and stackable. (But they also need recapping.)

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#5 2017-03-30 19:51:47

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Re: Which model do you recommend

ClassicHasClass wrote:

If you want a Compact Mac for that classic feeling, I tend to prefer Mac Pluses because they're my nostalgia, they're more capable than the 128 and 512K systems (more memory, they have SCSI, they can run up to 7.5.5) and they tend not to have the capacitor problems of later systems.

The Mac SE (no /30) would be the other optimal choice for a B&W toaster. The SE doesn't have the same issues with surface-mount capacitors as the SE/30 and, because it has a fan, is generally considered to have more reliable analog circuitry than the 128->Plus. It also has the advantage of using ADB keyboards and mice (Plus-compatible peripherals are starting to get a little pricey) and if you get the SEHD model you also get 1.44MB floppy compatibility. Compared to the later "Classic" it has the advantage of not requiring a proprietary RAM expansion board, and, well, I honestly don't know if the Classic has issues with capacitors or not. (I think the Classic II does, but again not sure about that.)

I like the Plus a little better myself for aesthetic reasons, but given the choice I'd probably recommend the SE to someone else.


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#6 2017-03-31 13:31:38

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Re: Which model do you recommend

I concur on the SE recommendation. All of the "classic Mac" goodness but with much less hassle over compatibility, reliability, and availability of parts/peripherals.

If you're near Minneapolis, I can set you up with one cheap. I need to thin the herd a bit...

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#7 2017-03-31 16:23:05

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Re: Which model do you recommend

An SE is good, If you can find a recapped classic or classic II its just as good.

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#8 2017-05-01 16:58:16

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Re: Which model do you recommend

If you get an SE, make sure it's an FDHD or a Superdrive or you'll have issues making floppies for it.


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#9 2017-05-01 19:02:30

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Re: Which model do you recommend

macdrone wrote:

An SE is good, If you can find a recapped classic or classic II its just as good.

Not really from my point of view. Upgrade playtime is severely limited on the PDS impaired Classics. They're Platinum Mac Plus retreads in the questionable Espresso Design Language cases that use ADB peripherals.

A lot of it boils down to whether you'll ever want EtherNet, for AppleTalk over PhoneNet or (null modem) printer cable you'll need another Mac to bridge to EtherNet, an adapter that costs more than that Mac or a NIC that costs way more than that! roll

#1 SE - FDHD models preferred as mentioned above, but just get a SCSI Zip drive and you don't need networking or FDHD.
#2 Plus
#3 Classic
#4 SE/30 - too fast for what you want and pricey all the way around

Mac IIcx is an interesting option (preferably Mac IIx if you have the room, they're destined to get pricey) if it's not too zippy for the older games. IIci is probably way too fast. You'll need to have a good MultiSync Display to use any of the Mac II series though.

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