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#1 2018-06-09 06:22:32

cc333
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From: North S.F. Bay Area, CA
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HP Pavilion 5040 - I Swear It Exists!!

And I have proof! I have one.

However, the internet seems to want to erase all mention that it ever existed, which has made finding *any* drivers (or even a simple spec sheet) virtually impossible; when I got the machine 12 years ago, it was easy!

However, that's not the whole problem. Spare parts seem to be absolutely impossible to find (eBay, my usual go-to for this sort of stuff, comes up with results for a much newer laptop with a very similar model number, Pavilion dv5000), and I rather need some right now, because the sound card has failed.

I thought maybe it was a problem with the breakout board (which contains the ports and stuff and sits in a special expansion slot with a 34-pin cable connecting it to the motherboard). The header pins for the breakout board had corroded, and were failing, so I decided I'd try to replace it.

Well, it's replaced now (messed up a couple traces, but I think they still make electrical contact; I'll have to beep them out to make certain), but the sound still isn't working, which is making me think that the motherboard has failed somehow, because I realized the chipset is on there.

So, I probably want a new motherboard to test this hypothesis, right? Well, can't find any stupid parts because everyone thinks the stupid thing doesn't exist!

Basically, I'm looking for parts. Anyone know where I can find some?

c


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#2 2018-06-09 17:03:58

jt
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Re: HP Pavilion 5040 - I Swear It Exists!!

Recap?

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#3 2018-06-09 18:35:06

cc333
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Re: HP Pavilion 5040 - I Swear It Exists!!

Probably. There are a few cans that look like they could use an upgrade (I don't *think* there's any leakage, but I can't tell).

I was thinking of washing the motherboard, actually. You think that would alleviate the problem? It usually works wonders on SE/30's smile

It's not like it's acting weird or anything, though; aside from the nonfunctional sound, every other function seems to be operating normally.

c


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#4 2018-06-11 12:37:28

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Re: HP Pavilion 5040 - I Swear It Exists!!

That's strange, and it certainly doesn't help that HP likes to reuse model names/numbers.  I have an HP Pavilion 4540c I got for free a number of years back and distinctly recall being able to go on HP's website to get drivers for it.  Now it seems they've taken the supremely douchey step of actively deleting any/all information that the products ever existed if they're more than 10 years old:

https://support.hp.com/us-en/retired-products

I understand that bandwidth isn't free and a company can't reasonably be expected to support a product forever but come on, how much space and bandwidth were some drivers that could fit on floppy disks and a handful of basic HTML pages really taking up?


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#5 2018-06-11 17:01:46

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Re: HP Pavilion 5040 - I Swear It Exists!!

Yeah, I know! It's quite sleazy of them!

Now I can't even get drivers anymore, and I can't remember where I put the ones I had back when I actually could download them still. I may have deleted them accidentally. I used to take for granted that most companies tended to keep such things online more or less indefinitely, because they took at least some pride in their products, and even though they'd been EOL'ed for decades, they kept some minimal support pages and drivers online for the convenience of companies using them for highly specific things for which nothing else will do. But it now seems that notion isn't valid anymore, since everyone keeps trying to reinvent themselves and distance from the past.

I wonder if the Wayback Machine has the drivers and associated KB articles archived?

c

Last edited by cc333 (2018-06-11 17:09:50)


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#6 2018-06-19 20:29:59

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Re: HP Pavilion 5040 - I Swear It Exists!!

It's certainly possible though you're going to have a tough time finding it if they do have it archived.  HP apparently used a search box to find the support pages for products and the search box is quite broken in the archived version.


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#7 2018-06-21 05:46:43

cc333
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Re: HP Pavilion 5040 - I Swear It Exists!!

Hmm, I see.

Well, then, I guess my two best options are to a: find the old copies I downloaded 12 years ago (somewhat unlikely), or b: find an alternate modern-day source that still offers them for download. I'm betting b: will give me the best chance of finding these drivers.

Why is HP doing this?!

c


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Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
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