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#1 2015-03-07 23:36:47

cc333
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From: North S.F. Bay Area, CA
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I Need Help With Something

This isn't a hack per se, but it seems most appropriate here, so here goes....

I just bought a nice 15" Mid-2012 MacBook Pro CTO with the 2.7 GHz i7, and it's absolutely perfect, save for one thing: the display.

It has the standard 1440x900 glossy LCD, and I'd like to give it a hires antiglare LCD instead. Trouble is, I can't seem to find any useful information regarding this process, and in particular if whole assemblies from a 2011 (early or late) model would be fully compatible (as in, I get one of those, and simply swap it in place of the existing one, leaving that alone). The reason I ask this especially is because whole hires antiglare assemblies for the 2011 models are somewhat common on eBay presently, and most are decently priced (and it would make the procedure much easier and less risky).

And before you ask, I would've gotten one with the hires antiglare AND 2.7 GHz CPU to begin with, but I couldn't find any that were within my price range.

So, if anybody can help at all, that would be great!

c


Main Macs: Early '09 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 13"
Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
Playthings: Mac SE/30, 3.0 GHz Mavericks-based HackServe, Many others....
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#2 2015-03-10 00:26:44

cc333
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Re: I Need Help With Something

Anyone?

c


Main Macs: Early '09 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 13"
Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
Playthings: Mac SE/30, 3.0 GHz Mavericks-based HackServe, Many others....
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#3 2015-03-10 00:57:01

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Re: I Need Help With Something

No clue, but I'm a bit curious.  I've got a late-2011 with a dead backlight I'd eventually like to fix but haven't looked into it at all.

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#4 2015-03-10 02:37:24

techknight
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Re: I Need Help With Something

I fixed one with a dead backlight.

The smallest chip in the world has to be replaced, along with its associated fuse, on the logic board. And its a BGA.

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#5 2015-03-10 03:05:11

cc333
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Re: I Need Help With Something

This is useful information, but I don't want to repair a dead backlight right now-- I want to know if I can swap a complete, hi res (antiglare or not) display assembly from a 2011 MacBook Pro onto a 2012 and have it work without any major issues (incompatible connector, missing Bluetooth and/or Wifi antennae, etc).

c


Main Macs: Early '09 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 13"
Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
Playthings: Mac SE/30, 3.0 GHz Mavericks-based HackServe, Many others....
Desired: Lisa, Kanga PowerBook G3, Apple IIc, Apple II, Spare parts, etc.

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#6 2015-03-10 18:42:58

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Re: I Need Help With Something

There's a thread over on iFixit where some guy says he was able to replace the display assembly on his 2012 with one from a 2010 model. The caviats noted:

A: There's only 2 wifi antennas instead of three. He claims it works okay anyway, which makes me wonder if the other antenna was actually bluetooth, and:

B: The connector is incompatible (and it says the 2012 is *unique*), but he claims that by *very carefully* breaking a piece off the old display cable he was able to make it work because the pinout and contact spacing itself is the same.

Personally, given how much you've invested in this machine I'd seriously recommend leaving it alone, but if you absolutely must go through with it, how much are the display assemblies you're looking at? DV Warehouse will sell you the correct one for $499. I'm seeing prices around $250 for the 2010/2011 ones, and, well, after buying either you're looking at being out-of-pocket, what, $1,850 vs. $2,100? Screw up on a Frankenstein-ing attempt and you're likely to be out the cost of a logic board on top of the $1,850 and that looks to be at *least* $700, so... I think the correct choice is sort of obvious here.


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#7 2015-03-10 19:51:44

cc333
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Re: I Need Help With Something

OK, useful info, thanks!

As for the proper part from DV Warehouse, well, I guess I'll save up for that, as that seems to be the ideal thing to do if I want to have it.

I'm still a bit curious, however, if the 2011 and 2012 displays are truly compatible with one another.

c

p.s. The ones I was looking at are around $200, so a bit less than half the cost


Main Macs: Early '09 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 13"
Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
Playthings: Mac SE/30, 3.0 GHz Mavericks-based HackServe, Many others....
Desired: Lisa, Kanga PowerBook G3, Apple IIc, Apple II, Spare parts, etc.

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#8 2015-03-11 19:01:57

cc333
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Re: I Need Help With Something

Oh, and I did see that post that you referenced, Eudimorphodon. However, the person was installing a 2010 display on a 2012, as you noted. It seems to me that a 2011 display would have fewer significant differences from the 2012 version, and that they should be mostly cross-compatible. Or am I mistaken?

I just want to determine this without a doubt before I commit to anything, as it's not cheap (and I've already spent on the MBP).

Though, it does seem that the DV Warehouse thing at $499, while hideously expensive, is much safer and is 100% guaranteed to work on the 2012 MBP (provided there are no differences in the logic board display connector between those MBPs that came equipped with the HiRes display from the factory and those that didn't (such as mine)). I might just break down at some point and get that one (once I get more money to spend on such things!)

c

Last edited by cc333 (2015-03-11 19:15:55)


Main Macs: Early '09 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 13"
Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
Playthings: Mac SE/30, 3.0 GHz Mavericks-based HackServe, Many others....
Desired: Lisa, Kanga PowerBook G3, Apple IIc, Apple II, Spare parts, etc.

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#9 2015-03-14 23:46:04

cc333
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Re: I Need Help With Something

Well, I think I'll just try a 2011 part and see what happens. I can always return it if it doesn't work.

As long as I stick to replacing whole clamshell/lid assemlies, the risk of damage to either the display or computer should be minimal. Correct?

c


Main Macs: Early '09 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 13"
Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
Playthings: Mac SE/30, 3.0 GHz Mavericks-based HackServe, Many others....
Desired: Lisa, Kanga PowerBook G3, Apple IIc, Apple II, Spare parts, etc.

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#10 2015-03-15 18:27:59

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Re: I Need Help With Something

Well, let's go with "less likely." tongue


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#11 2015-03-15 18:48:40

cc333
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Re: I Need Help With Something

Agreed. The possibility for damage *always* exists, but it is indeed less likely when we're dealing with whole assemblies rather than tearing said assemblies down to their component parts.

I'll let everyone here know how it goes when I get to it.

c

Last edited by cc333 (2015-03-15 18:49:57)


Main Macs: Early '09 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 13"
Secondary Macs: Early '08 Mac Pro, Mid '12 MacBook Pro 15"
Playthings: Mac SE/30, 3.0 GHz Mavericks-based HackServe, Many others....
Desired: Lisa, Kanga PowerBook G3, Apple IIc, Apple II, Spare parts, etc.

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